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r, (local preacher), seconded the reso- [rose- restore] Mr, Ry Telus [Tells] SELL (local preacher), moved the fourth ; Mee for THE HUDDERSFIELD CHRONICLE, SATURDAY, OCTOBER 12, 1850. 7 REFORM MOVEMENT. zement [cement] has been evinced in this scents oe the past week among the Wes- [West- WASP] consequence of a series of services and # for delivery by the Rev. W. i ces [ce] DOME F the expelled ministers. On Sunday teh [the] jut th preached morning and evening in 6s Rev W. ical [cal] Hall to numerous congregations. On pilosoP [Pills] ing he addressed a large audience at Honley, are esday [Tuesday] evening at the Philosophical Hall, edn [end] the avowed object of which was for pis he supplies. We subjoin reports of the a on those occasions. ee AT HONLEY. aoe [are] of Wesleyan Reformers was held in the 4 nee odist [dist] Chapel, Honley, on Monday evening agit' [act] ay the weather was remarkably wet, and slthove [slave] erful [fuller] as to render umbrellas of little pefore [before] the appointed time of opening the available seat in the gallery was occu- [occur- occupied] ge geats [gates] were obtained for the body of the est reat [rest] numbers had to stand both in the pelow [below] during the whole 'meeting, which 7 a late hour. A few minutes before the ed for opening the proceedings, the Rev. ys, juts made his appearance, accompanied and several other respectable jn the Wesleyan connexion. On ascend- [ascend] Horm [Home] they were greeted by the audience. of the evening was begun by singing the a gud [Gd] t jearel [quarrel] One plat ie pusipess [pipes] '22 God moves in a mysterious way His wonders to perform, &c., qhich [which] prayer Was offered up by the Rev. W. TINKER, local preacher and leader, was be Ma called to the chair, and proceeded to ob- [bail] would have been glad if circumstances had jat [at] for that meeting- [meeting hear] (hear) ;-but there were sting Which required exposure, and that meet- [time] i a give information on those affairs. A Pd was worthy ministers of talent and standing had vile 4 from the connexion, and what for No ee ould [old] prov ge 4 against 24 ial [al] ae without trial; yes, even without ne worthy chairman then noticed the case of ti oauiout, [out] and spoke highly of him as a minister, I. cinta, [cent] and as a gentleman. The Doctor, he ga ad, had been censured, for not taking upon him- [Simon] on fourfold business of accuser, judge, jury, and oO et arainst [against] a brother, for advocating Wesleyan eet [et] 'Hear, hear, and shame.) By the law of '35 we Griffiths said, so called they had rendered ot. ajyex [Ajax] liable to expulsion for attending that meet- [meet be] be sat were they to be afraid -were they quietly to sit ' ith [it] Methodism as it is, and not say a word ann those evils which they knew existed (No, no.) ei jvocating [advocating] the removal of those evils they were fn as everything bad; but they left that to be ee d by their neighbours; they could speak as to eusistency [existence] of their lives. He (the chairman) had 17 years, a local preacher 14 years, and 11 years, So that he was entitled to a vote in the des Meeting. He had had resolutions entrusted to le for presentation, and had been desired to withdraw oe put he could not do that, except they would not him as a representative of Methodism. For ne movements they were called disturbers -but oe they to have peace without purity (No.) A storm cathering, [Catherine] but storms purified the air, and the ener [enter] that storm was over the better,- [better] The fiercer the blast The sooner 'tis [is] past. Tie Chairman concluded his remarks by saying that ay person would be allowed to move any amendment ty the various resolutions which would be submitted to the meeting. providing they did so in a proper way, and rot with a view to interrupt the meeting. Mr, Josepd [Joseph] DoNKERSLEY [Donkersley] (local preacher and leader), gis [is] called upon to move the first resolution. He remarked, that while he had been sat his knees had actually smote one against the other, and if he had con- [cone] -e any ministerial, religious, or moral them, and yet they were expelled, a Ha BW sulted [suited] his feelings he would not have been there how- [however] ever, he would not give way, because a great principle yas [as] involved in the question. (Hear, hear.) The Con- [Conference] ference [France] had enacted laws which were wrong, in conse- [cone- consequence] quence [Queen] of which there was complaint, and just com- [complaint] plant a great number of Wesleyans were dissatisfied, aud [and] justly dissatisfied. The doings of Conference had been the cause of the reform movement the reformers iad [aid] chosen men as their representatives-men of stand- [standing] ing. of piety, and usefulness these men sought an inter- [interview] riew [view] with the late Conference, but they were even refused that interview. (Shame, shame.) Memorials ent [end] by thousands of office-bearers, and tens of thou- [thou suds] suds of members of the Wesleyan connexion, went for wthiug [thing] with the Conference the people's delegates vere not allowed an interview. (Hear, hear.) Did that show a right spirit on the part of Conference Did it duwa [due] Christian spirit (No, no.) What Conference vuited [voted] was money-(A voice. Salt ;-they wanted iredom, [freedom] and, by the grace of God, would have it. (Cries of ve will. After a few further remarks, the speaker noved- [moved- novelty] That this meeting is deeply convinced, from the conduct al spirit of the late Conference, from its rejection of all overtures, and especially from its total disre- [desire- disregard] gtd [Gd] of the memorials, signed by thousands of the office- [officers] teers [trees] and tens of thousands of the members, that the ust [st] decided measures are necessary on the part of Wes- [West- Wester] Reformers to carry out their object. . Mr. Sykes, local preacher, and leader, rose to the resolution. He spoke on the injustice of Conference in the expulsion of the Revs. Messrs. Eve- [Everett] ett. [et] Dunn, and Griffiths without trial. The Conference had 'id aman man] might be a good Christian but a bad Methodist. He dwelt on the importance of local Preachers, as being the hands and feet of Methodism. 'Y weve [wee] taxed to support the itinerant preachers, aud [and] what did the itinerant preachers do for the local pruchers [preachers Why, according to the law of '35, they lal [all] the privilege te expel them if they lifted up their Voices for refurm. [reform] (Hear.) Mr. Hanson, (Sunday-school superintendent,) moved the second resolution - me x meeting protests against the arbitrary and 'duct pursued by the Wesleyan Conference, in the uh Suu [Su] ofthe [of the] Rev. James Bromley the degradation of ier. [er] Thomas Rowland the censure onthe [other] Rev. Dr. Bee pont the unkind and unnecessary removal of the thatment [torment] of rge, [re] and the unchristian and undignified the refs other ministers suspected of sympathy with i fant [ant] movement, considering such a course of proce [price] Sins sed [se] to the best interests of the Church, and alike i, S every principle of civil and religious liberty. ite [it] the peculiarity of his position, for by his dite [site] deat [dear] that meeting he exposed himself to Metho- [Method- Method] db oth [oh] Nevertheless, as a Christian he could not Cinferen [conferring] te protest against the proceedings of the the vecause [because] he believed their conduct to be best interests of Christianity. He could not ae with tyranny, because to do that would etence [Essence] is Sacrifice of principle. The conduct of Con- [Concise] ' obser, [observe] expelling talented and useful ministers was, tse [te] ee arbitrary, cruel, and unjust. He men- [month] with case of the Rev. E. Walker as being parallel wit an of the Rev. J. Bromley, in refusing to comply le district meeting but Mr. Walker was not ex- i He also said that the Rev. G. B. M'Donald was Th ee bound to bring Mr. Kaye to trial as the Rev. ret Me ep was to bring Mr. Grosjean [Grossing] to trial, and dct [act] be call ve was not censured ;-could such con- [conference] ed impartial (No, no.) The conduct of uch [such] as tea against the liberty of the people, inas- [ins- station] tion, [ion] id not allow its doings to be called in ques- [ques] Me Wy ar.) tion [ion] Kaye (leader), briefly seconded the resolu- [resolute- resolution] wi Bee Wx. GRIFFITHS, jun., who was received Moved the third resolution, which was le following te . That this mous [moss] . gress [grass] of Woes although deeply interested in the attachment esleyan [Wesleyan] Methodism, and having strong Tuced [Tuned] that Personally to many ministers, is con- [cont] ate palpably assumption and the acts of the Conference the church pposed posed] to the authority of the Great Head f the early j at variance with the design and constitution the hristian [Christian] churches, and practically opposed to aunt Ce spread of Christianity and regrets that it dittenance attendance] contribute, as heretofore, to the ten truth of a system so opposed to the spirit of Chris- [Christ] te al) Went therefore recommends that the contributions the a funds be at once diverted to another chan- [chan] an of the shall meet the just and scriptural Sie [Sir] ple. [le] With end gentleman proceeded at great length, and Wolved [Solved] ability, to enforce the principles ing nm his resolution, and to evidence certain facts We ve onference conference] in support of the same, but as Plosop [Glossop] Mr. Griffith's speech, delivered in the bes mt 'cll [ll] Hall, on Wednesday evening, this must our excuse for its omission on this at this mace Meetiig [Meeting] pledges itself to the principle of no and strongly urges upon the le patiently eit [it] membership during this painful tify [tiff] whenever this course is found to be impracti- [imperfect- impracticable] Teetin, [Nineteen] merous numerous] expulsions or other local circumstances, would consider such parties justified in takin [taking] em separate public worship by the l ki nd all other religious services common to Said teen he ie laid near his heart. He was for no libert. liberty] 4 Ut intended to endure the painful struggle tien, [ten, It was obtained. The grace of God was tk thay [that] 8d he recommended all true reformers to Rot nae He remarked that being a reformer Y Him less a Christian, and he believed if fale [ale] Use ee the Christian temper and spirit, and ' it was Much prayer and faith, the struggle, pain- [painted] we Soggy, Ould [Old] be brought to a happy issue. te THORNTON (local preacher and leader), in After yen the resolution. for qu Of thanks had been given to the chair- [Chatterton] 2ble [able] manner in which he had conducted fess in and to the trustees of the chapel for their the free use of the same, the meet- [meet] ut eleven p.m. REFORM MEETING AT HUDDERSFIELD. A densely crowded it . Wesleyan Reformers and enthusiastic meeting of in the Philosophical muir [Mir] eld [ed] a Wednesday evening, tickets, which we are informed had ee was by as to ensure an attendance as purely Wesleyan ae aa cumstances [cum stances] would allow, and jude; position of the meeting, and the pe Pat ae a proceedings, we presume the arrangement was in eve y ie successful. Shortly before seven o'clock th gan [an] to fill, and by half-past every available space appeared to be occupied. The Rev. Mr. Griffith George Mallinson, Esq., John Kaye Esq mi f the Wesleyan Times. and ye, proprietor of and other friends ascended the platform at seven precisely, and were received with a probation. Amongst other gentlemen present we ob served Mr. seem ae pk steward, John Taylor, Mr. Jobn [John] Carr, leader, Mr. Broadbent ror [or] ati [at] Tinker, local preacher, Mr. J ebson, [Enson] leader, Mr. John Carter, local preacher, Mr. W. Charlesworth, local Mr. Clegg, local preacher, and a great number o oe ce bearers. Several gentlemen of the Conference ine [in] da were given to understand, were in the body of After singing a h ra Jebson, of the frat ant up by ur delegates to the late Lay wen Kaye, Esq., was unanimously called to the chair, and in opening the proceedings said, that it had not been his intention to occupy that a way position up to within the last fifteen minutes, but being pressed by the numerous friends around him, he had at last acceeded. [succeeded] Happily he was not called upon to make a as the h pe e a long speech, were others who were better prepared to ad- [address] dress the meeting than himself. He understood there were some persons present who might possibly wish to ask a few questions on the other side, and so far as he was able they should have every opportunity. (Hear, hear.) The first resolution would be moved by Mr. Joseph which was as follows - That this meeting is deeply convinced from the conduct and spirit of the late Conference, 'from its rejection of all conciliatory overtures, and especially from its total di of the arenas of and tens of thousands of the mo; ech [each] ecessary [necessary] part of Wesleyan Reformers to carry out their objects, on the Before a man, resumed the speaker, could be convinced he must have some light, so that he might begin to judge whether the doings of Conference were good or evil. (Hear, hear.) Many of them were persuaded that there was something wrong in the proceedin. [proceeding] gs of the Confer- [Conference] ence. [once] For many years he had been a Conference man, but he had been compelled from evidence he could not resist to become a Reformer. (Hear, hear.) There were the cases of the Revs. Bromle [Bromley] Rowland, and Dr. Beau- [Beaumont] mont, [most] and the previous treatment of the constitutional memorialists, [memorials] which had combined to drive him into the ranks of reform, and he was now determined to abide by the principles of reform and 'nothing less. (Loud applause.) Mr. R. Roperts, [Roberts] one of the Huddersfield lay delegates, seconded the resolution, and, referring to the late lay delegate meeting, said that he thought that it would have been only just, courteous, gentlemanly, Christian-like, and condescending on the part of the Conference to have met the committee appointed by that meeting. (Hear, and Mr. Grirrira- [Gregory- No condescension. But instead of hearing them, their offers were rejected, and a meeting of the committee declined-with the conso- [cons- consolation] lation [nation] that Conference could not pay any attention to them. (Hear and shame. He was satisfied that some of the laws of Methodism were un-Christian, anti-scrip- [scriptural] tural, [trial] despotic, and tyrannical. (Hear, hear.) The laws of Methodism prohibited him from speaking his mind- [mind true] true they could not prevent him thinking, but if he could not express his mind, then he said at once his liberty was annihilated-and he thought the people ought to lift up their hands and obtain their abolition. (Applause.) He had been a methodist [Methodist] for 18 years, and a local preacher for 14, but it so happened that he was not allowed at the quarterly meeting to speak about the circuit memorial. He was allowed to be present, and whilst he was just speaking to his next friend a gentleman stood up and said, Brother Roberts ought not to be a prompter in this meeting. Shame, shame. That was Confer- [Conference] ence-like. [once-like. -like] (Applause. It is. The Conference thought they were entrenched in a citadel of power, unapproach- [approach- unapproachable] able-but [but] let the motto of the Reformers be onward, onward, and they would soon raze the citadel to the ground and claim the victory. (Applause.) The CHarrMan [Chairman] then put the resolution, which was passed with only one dissentient. The Rev. W. GRIFFITH on rising was received with ap- [applause] plause, [clause] and said The experience of the past twelve months, while it had confirmed his persuasion that meet- [meetings] ings of that kind were absolutely necessary, and that they could be conducted in a spirit not in anywise inconsistent with the professions of Christian men-had not in any degree tended to diminish the kind of feeling that he had when rising to address so numerous an auditory as the present. (Hear, hear.) It wasa [was] serious thing to occupy for any length of time the attention of an audience like the present, and to offer observations which, if they were rightand [right and] acted upon, were calculated to very changes in their posi- [post- position] tion [ion] asa body. (Hear.) Or, if they were erroneous, and should be found inconsistent with the principles of divine truth-yet, unhappily, taking hold of the minds of many, leading them to the action which they were designed to promote-he said it then became a matter of very great moment for them to consider well the principles they were prepared on such occasions to enunciate. (Hear.) As to the principles themselves he had not the least doubt in his own mind. (Hear, hear.) If he had, the gravity of the ques- [question] tion, [ion] themomentousinterests concerned, would have induced him at once to act as a jury was directed to act when a doubt flitted across their minds as to the guilt or innocence of the prisoner at the bar,-to give such prisoner the benefit of the doubt. He had not the least benefit to offer at that time. (Applause.) Onthetruth, [Anstruther] thesanctity, [the sanctity] the scripturality [Scripture] of their principles as Wesleyan Reformers he had no more doubt than he had of the authenticity of that book, the common sense interpretation of which had given origin to the sentiments which as Wesleyan Reformers they were then promulgating through the body. (Hear, hear.) His stand was taken upon the Word of God-the Word of God alone. (Hear, hear) Human authority in such matters was not to be their guide, was not to be in any degree in- [influential] fluential [financial] in forming their opinions. Man was an erring being at best; every convocation of mortal men, though composed of the wisest and the holiest men breathing on the face of the earth, necessarily had in its composition the essentials of fallibility and liability to err. (Hear.) Their expositions partook of their own characteristics. They might be the opinions of a Calvin, the sentiments of a Luther, the persuasions of a Melancthon, [Melancholy] the opinions of an Erasmus; or, to come to more modern times, and to men of more weight, perhaps, to their ministers as Wes [West] leyans, [Lyons] they might be the sentiments ofa [of] Benson, of a Watson, of a Clarke, of a Wesley. Such expositions might be an authority to the Church, but they must not be allowed to weigh the small dust of the balance-the smallest of the down that ever fell from the swan's breast, when such expositions themselves were inconsistent with, were not derived from, and could not be sustained by an appeal to, the inspired volume given by the great Teacher as the source of all truth- [truth hear] (hear, hear)-as the source of all guidance to his church to the end of time. (Hear, hear, and applause.) The Bible-the Bible alone-the religion of Protestants, was the principle so far as he understood the opinions, sentiments, and practices of Wesleyan Reformers, on which their agitation was based. He felt persuaded there was hardly a man, (he said, hardly, for there were exceptions to all general truths, anomalies were to be found in every department of nature it was a long lane that had no turn- [turning] ing,)- It [It] is lad, )-but here and there arose one in society of such peculiar characteristics of mind that he would, as Cicero observed, adopt and embrace any theory, however absurd and contradictory to reason and truth,- [truth] with such solitary exceptions he felt persuaded that there was hardly a man in the Wesleyan body who would ven- [venture] ture [true] in a public meeting to say that if there was any in Wesleyan Methodism that could be shown to be incon- [income- inconsistent] sistant [assistant] with, that could be shown to be contrary to, the prin- [pain- principles] ciples [piles] of the New Testament; that he was prepared-because it is part and parcel either of Methodism as 2 was (or, more likely, of Methodism as 2 is) to maintain the necessity, the propriety, the righteousness, the loyalty of continuing it. (Loud applause.) The question, then, that pressed upon every mind was this-were there in the laws, were there in the constitution, were there in the administration, were there in the executive, were there in the working out of Methodism as is, principles, facts, resul [result] ts, that were diametrically at variance with thé [the] authority of the Son of God as expressed in the New Testament (Hear, hear.) That was the question. If there was, they must not tell him that the Conference of 1850 s these acts unanimously. The Conference of 1850, in convo- [Congo- convocation] cation of Christian ministers, when placed in opposition to the authority of Jesus, went for nought-(hear, hear, and a non-existence- [existence hear] (hear, hear,)-could have no legitimate authority over those who acknowledged the sovereignty of Christ, and had sworn allegiance to Jehovah -Jesus. (Hear, and applause.) Let Christ reign, and all opposition be put under his feet. (Renewed applause.) If there was in the minutes of Conference, whether of a recent or more remote date, passed it might be without thought, without observing the bearings of the principles involved in them, and received in all simplicity by a confiding poops ( Aye )-and which were, perhaps, in all simplicity by a vast majority es to the of the men whe [the] were partie [parties] i passing of them,-if as light flow in upon society-if as into the just principles-showed that 'while they were asleep the enemy had sown tares, -if there was inthe [another] minutes of Conference principles, resolutions, acts, laws, that were at variance with the plainest dictates of eternal reason, with the plainest requirements of God's laws, then, he said, away with these minutes-away with these minutes-(loud applause)-not a shred of them- [them no] ( no, )-not [not] a particle of them-no, not an atom of them must remain. (Applause.) If they looked into their Deed of Declaration, or into their plan of pacification, or into the writings of John Wesley, or into any other document, offi- [of- official] cial [coal] or semi-official, and found that it contained what was con- [contrary] trary [Tracy] to Scripture truth, as Christian men, to say nothing of their Protestantism, so soon as the discovery was made, their first duty was not to ask what the fathers of the connection did-not to enquire how far Jobn [John] Wesley acted rightly or otherwise and use they found either the fathers of the connection, orJohn [or john] Wesley, had insome [income] particulars departed from the scripture line of propriety-to stick to what they then saw to be wrong, though the fathers did not. No. It was for them to say that if the men had lived until their age and had their light they would have been in the fore front of Reform. (Hear, Aye they would .) When last he had the 'opportunity of addressing them in the courseof [course of] last winter.- [winter] cA day that lad. He hoped it was a good day; e hoped some seed was sown that had now sprung up. (Hear, and applause.) Thank God there were more now. They had not then Mr. Martin on the platform-but they had now. They had not then Harrison of Wakefield, they had now. (Applause.) They had hundreds of reformers for lecturers and for the platform, men not one of whom had been then brought out, but they were brought out by the acts of the conference of 1849, and the subsequent acts of its agents, and he was glad to think that the great ques- [questions] tions [tins] of Wesleyan Reform, was not to be by some half-dozen individuals. The people could do their own work now. (Hear, hear.) At least they could in Yorkshire at least they could ia the Huddersfield circuit- [circuit applause] (Applause. )-at least they could in Slaithwaite. (Hear, hear.) Slaithwaite for ever ('It'le never be forzotten. [forgotten] No he did not think brother West would ever forget it- [the] he did not think brother Learoyd would ever forget it- [the] he did not think brother B. L. Shaw, Esq., would ever forget it. (Applause and laughter.) It was a fine scene as it had been described to him. He wished he had seen it, The Re- [Reformers] formers plain men though they were-were earnest, sincere, determined, with truth and right as their weapons; and when a man had truth on his side, com- [common] mon sense on his side, common decency on his side, aye and liberty on his side, he was then nerved for anything. (Hear, hear.) Oh, dear, he must be a little bit of a fellow indeed, who with his quarrel just and fully armed durst not face any set. of men who dared to stand up in defence of error, un-christianism, [un-Christians] injustice, and the putting down of public liberty. (Applause.) Qh, it was a fine sight-here were some half dozen of these little men, who hitherto had gone for very little in Methodism, determinin [determined] g to hold a series of reform meetings in the circuit. (Hear, hear.) Very happily for their cause, they commenced their series of meetings at Slaithwaite. He did not know Slaithwaite, but should he ever go ona [on] pilgri [pilgrim] age he would go to see this noble Runnymede of Wesleyan Reform. (Hear, hear.) Well, it was no sooner announced that these three or four plain spoken men were going to hold these meet- [meetings] ings, than it was resolved by the Conference party to go; and the bishop of the diocese, with his chaplain, and one of his lay friends-he would be very glad if they were all three there at that meeting, and if they were there he should be very happy to hear them at a proper time, and if they could defend injustice, then in the name of justice he called upon them to do it. (Loud applause.) Well, it was announced that they were going-and the bishop of the diocese declared before he went that he should' scatter them. Shame, and applause.) He (Mr. Griffiths) could not tell whether he did. He just gave it as he heard it. Well, they went, and didn't [did't] they scatter them (Laughter.) He had read in heathen mythology of a certain god who turned his enemies intostone, [intestines] and he presumed the Conefrence [Conference] thought they had got a Conferential [Confidential] Aigeus. [Ages] (Laughter.) These gentlemen presented themselves before the platform, took out their note books, and thought that the taking of notes by the bishop of the diocese, in the presence of these men, would turn them into stone. But no, it brought out their manhood-(hear, hear)-it brought out their spirit of freedom-it brought out their It did, and applause)-it brought out their power-( It did, lad )- and even the chairman of the district did not dare to take up the glove that a poor local preacher threw down for him. (Applause.) He said hurrah for the people of Slaith- [Snaith- Slaithwaite] waite. (Hear.) The reformers had in consequence of the proceedings of Conference during the past twelve months received a vast increase to the number of those who were prepared to sow the seed of Wesleyan Reform. Instead of being scattered, they themselves were scattering the truth, and ee that whenever any party expected just by their ily [il] presence, because of their official dignity, whether as layics [classics] or clerics, to frighten the Reformers, that. they would have such a finish to their Don Quixote expedition as Brother West, Brother Lea- [Learoyd] royd, and Brother B. L. Shaw, Esq, had in their jour- [our- journey] ney [ne] to Slaithwaite. (Hear, hear, and applause.) At a subsequent period of the meeting Mr. Griffith corrected an error into which he had fallen respecting the presence of the Rev. Mr. Learoyd at the meeting at Slaithwaite. It ap that gentleman was not there. When -he addres- [address- addressed] them last year he had an advantage which he did not now possess-namely, he was then able, in reference to the proceedings of Conference, to state matters as an eye and an ear witness. The resolution put into bis hand, and which he was about to submit to them, and to endeavour to support, by showing that it was worthy of their reception and adoption, referred to the recent Conference, and the few facts he might have to refer to, would be given to them upon the best authority he could find. He had not the opportunity now of speaking as an eye and an ear witness, but if there was any gentleman present who could correct him if in error he hoped that gentleman would be allowed by the chairman and the meeting to put him right. (Hear, hear.) He did not wish to make a single misrepre- [misery- misrepresentation] sentation [station] even on a minor point, still less on any giext [get] fact or any fundamental principle and if any man could show him that he was mistaken, he would thank him for the correction, and pledge himself never again to repeat the statements which he been proved to have exaggerated. (Applause.) The resolution was- [was that] That this meeting protests against the arbitrary and cruel conduct pursued by the Wesleyan Conference, in the expulsion of the Rev. James Bromley the degradation of the Rev. Thomas Rowland; the censure on the Rev. Dr. Beaumont; the unkind and unnecessary removal of the Rev. J. C. George; and the unchristian and undignified treatment of other ministers sus- [suspected] pected [expected] of sympathy with the reform movement, considering such a course of proceeding fatal to the best interests of the church, and alike opposed to every principle of civil and religious liberty. 'The venerable man who moved the first resolution, and who showed that while the crown of glory graced his head that he possessed very much of the fire of youth-had in some respects anticipated a part of his (the speaker's) motion. The meeting would perhaps allow him to tread briefly in his steps, as there were one or two par- [particulars] ticulars [particulars] which had been omitted. (Hear, hear.) He could only say he should as religiously endeavour to move this resolution as he had attempted religiously to conduct the public services in that hall on the last Sabbath. (Hear, hear.) The resolution brought the acts of the recent Conference before their attention. He was not at that Conference-he wished he had been, and then they should have had a fuller report inthe [another] Wesleyan Times of what took place than they had-but let them be thankful for what they did get. (Applause.) He knew some who would give their finger-ends to know how they got the information they did, so that from time to time they kept pace with the Conference gazette, who had their own reporters there. (Hear, and laughter.) They had called it Kaye's Times, and sometimes Old Nick's Gazette. (Hear, hear.) Very gentlemanly words, no doubt; very proper lan no doubt; very Christian-like language. He did not quarrel with them about such language, but then if they the Con- [Conference] ference [France] party used these very polite, very genteel, very mild, very courteous, altogether un-Billingsgute-like [un-Billingsgate-like] terms, he did not think they should fall foul of William Griffith because he sometimes made remarks which in the opinion of the Conference party were not very un-Billingsgate-like. (Laughter and applause The first name in the resolution was that of James Bromley. Whether that gentleman deserved expulsion or not he would not then stay to argue, though he was prepared to say that if Jesus Christ was on earth he would rather have expelled the men who wrote the law of 1835 than the man who wrote against it-(hear, hear); that he would rather have frowned upon the men who made these laws, than he would have frowned upon James Bromley for writing, what Dr. Dixon had called unanswered and unanswerable letters to get these laws swept from the Conference books. (Hear, hear.) These laws were steeped in apostacy [apostle] and unbelief. (Hear, hear.) Certain of James Bromley's brethren thought that for writing these letters he should be summoned to an ecclesiastical tribunal. He declined to appear before it, grounding his reasons for so doing on the fact that there was another, a different class of ecclesiastical tribunal which he could as a minister claim, and which he did therefore claim, His brethern [brethren] would not yield to him; he did not feel it in his position to yield to them. They suspended him i consequence. He then, as the speaker held every man had a right to do who is brought before an inferior tribunal,-he appealed from the decision of the inferior to the higher, superior tribunal. (Hear, hear.) Conference refused. Mr. Bromley was not allowed to make his appeal in Conference, he was not allowed to cross the threshold of the Conference Chapel, he was not allowed to take a seat amongst his brethren, he was not allowed a single oppor- [upper- opportunity] tunity [unity] bees his to make his being allowed to assign.his reasons for declining to appear before the inferior ecclesiastical tribunal, although he had appealed from its decision to the judgment of Conference, he was not allowed to one word, to address one argu- [argue- argument] ment [men] to them; and, without a chance of hearing, he was expelled by the mere arbitrary power of the Conference. (Shame, shame. Was that fair ('It wasnot. [want] Was that English No. Would they give their class money and quarterage [quarter age] to keep up a tyranny like that. No, no. He ns they would not. Stop the supplies [supplies] stop them all-stop them for ever, unless the Conference came back to common justice. (Tremendous applause.) He now came to Mr. Rowland's case-a case to him in many respects one of the worst which had come under his notice. far as he understood Mr. Rowlands's case it was this-two members of the society, brothers Cousens Hardy and Joseph Coleman were brought to a leaders' meeting to be tried on certain cha arising out of the action they had taken to promote Wesleyan Reform. These charges were not brought against them by any person or persons in their own circuit, but by bry [by] pecans residing in another circuit-the Revs. Messrs. Weatherstone [Featherstone] and Tabraham, [Abraham] and another whose name he did not just then recollect- [recollect but] but Mr. Tabraham [Abraham] was the principal. The were tried at the leaders' meeting and most triumphantly and unanimously uitted. [fitted] (Applause.) Mr. Tabraham [Abraham] was dissatisfied with the judgment of the leaders' meeting, and appealed from its decision to that of the union district meeting- [meeting which] which consisted of five travelling preachers and no one else. ( That's grand, is'nt it. It is thus constituted. The accused has the privilege of choosing two, and the accuser other two, and the chairman of the district constitutes the fifth. If it should so happen that any of the parties chosen decline to act it remains with the chairman of the district appoint others in their stead. Cousens Hardy and Joseph Coleman being of opinion that, having been trium- [trim- triumphantly] phantly [triumphantly] and unanimously acquitted in a leaders' meeting, by men who known their manner of conversa- [conversation- conversation] tion [ion] from their youth, it was a perfect insult to bring them before another tribunal, consisting of five individuals, every one of whom might have been a brother who had never heard of, or seen them until the day they happened to stand in court, and they said, We will not be a party to the constituting of such a court of appeal. Wedeny [Deny] its nght [night] or power over us. We were honourably acquitted and there the matter ought to rest. However, the court was sum- [summoned] moned, [mined] and the Chairman was a right one for the seat -(hear, hear,)-Samuel Tindal, connected with the devas- [devs- devastation] tation [station] of the Lynn circuit. He appointed two-one of whom was Mr. Rowland. It happened that Kowland [Rowland] was a personal friend of Hardy's, of many years standing-com- [commencing] mencing, [fencing] indeed, with y's father. It was a refine- [refinement] ment [men] of cruelty to nominate him as one of the judges- [judges shame] ( Shame 'It was, )-and reminded him (Mr. Griffith) of certain acts of the Roman Inquisition. When that inqui- [Quinine- inquisition] sition [sit ion] wished to render their acts more than usually cruel and ferocious, they made a friend of the unfortunate victim apply the thumb-screw and other means of torture, or to assist at their martyrdom at the stake. Samuel Tindal fixed upon the personal and long-tried friend of Mr. Hardy. Disapprobation.) Now, what was the position in which Mir. Rowland would be placed it he found his friend guilty -there was a long-established friendship broken up, in probability, forever. If the convictions of his judgment obliged Thomas Rowland to acquit Cousins Hardy, well, then, he might as well put his head into a shark's mouth at once, as come into collision with Conference authority, Conference despotism, Conference arbitrarism. [arbitrary] (Applause.) He requested not to be put upon that union district meet- [meeting] ing. is request was not listened to. He sat there, and his four brethren found the accused guilty but he dis- [dissented] sented [scented] from the decision. (Applause.) Knowing the case was a2 momentous one, he aasigned [signed] his reasons for consci- [cons- conscientiously] entiously [enormously] differing with his colleagues. Without his knowledge they got into print. For this he was sum- [sum] moned [mined] before the Conference, who passed one of the heaviest -tmost [most] degrading sentences in its power upon the man be- [because] cause he gave a conscientious verdict-( Shame, shame, ) and he was ordered to make an apology. (Disapprobation.) Mr. Griffith here sat down, to allow any one to offer a defence of Conference in this matter, but no one appearing he resumed by saying he did believe there was a man who could defend it. (No, no. Well, what did the Conference do with Mr. Rowland In the first place they told a prac- [pray- practical] tical [critical] lie. When the meeting, in looking over the minutes of Conference, or the station list, saw that so and so was a supernumerary, they were given to understand that such a person was either by bodily or mental infir- [infirm- infirmity] mity, [city] for the full work of a Wesleyan minister-in other words, that he covld [could] not take a circuit. Thomas Rowland was put down in these minutes of Confer- [Conference] ence [once] as a supernumerary- [supernumerary shame] Shame ),-and [and] had it not been for the press and public meetings, so far as the Conference was concerned it would not have been known by nine-tenths of the Society but that Thomas Rowland was unable to do the work of a circuit, and was what is technically called a worn out preacher. Was he a worn out preacher No. The speaker had seen hima [him] fortnight ago, and he was as able -the Norfolk friends told him, the Yarmouth friends told him, the circuit where Mr. Rowland had been labouring, that he was as able in body and zeal, and in attention to pastoral duties, as he was that day twelve months. But he is put downas [downs] supernumerary preacher. Shame, shame. He (the speaker) said that such a proceeding was a practical lie. ('It is, it is. But there was another thing, a supernumerary preacher was always allowed to choose in what part of the connection he will reside. There was great ropriety [proprietor] in this, as a man could spend the remainder of his ys amidst the consolations of the friends of his youth, or amongst those who had grown up under his ministry. (Hear, hear.) Well, Mr. Rowland wasstationed [was stationed] in Norfolk, he had travelled through that county from one end to the other, and there were more warm-hearted friends there than he could find anywhere else. They loved him-they had done so before his expulsion. (Hear.) The Conference, in order to punish the man who had acted conscientiously, told him that for the remainder of his days, being a super- [supernumerary] numerary, [numerous] he must not fix his residence in the county of Norfolk. Shame, shame. It was a shame, and would be a shame to Yorkshire if the mere statement of the thing did not draw forth from every man an expression of deep dissatisfaction at a step so inhuman. (Loud applause.) He could not have thought that the savages of New Zealand could have concocted such a proceeding. (Hear, and. applause.) He was as much a Wesleyan as ever, but if this was Wesleyan Methodism, and if the declaration of the ex-president be correct that Methodism has reached a state of perfection that cannot be altered, then let Me- [Methodism] thodism [Methodist] be annihilated for ever, and in the language of Wesley himself let not a vestige of it remain as a memorial of its previous existence on the face of the earth. (Hear, and applause.) But that was not necessary. The chapels would yet be open to them. Let the trustees support the reformers, and when the hour of difficulty came they would find the reformers supporting them but if they were deter- [determined] mined to be the tools of the Conference party-if they would stand by Conference despotism-then they must be prepared to fall with Conference despotism and tyranny. (Hear, hear.) He now came to the case of Dr. Beaumont. When the enquiry was put to that gentleman, on what ground he justified himself for not having brought Mr. Grosjean [Grossing] to trial, he stated, amongst other things, that it would have been of no use to bring Mr. Grosjean [Grossing] to trial as he would have had a triumphant and all but, if not quite, an unani- [unanimous] mous [moss] acquittal from his peers; and if he had at- [attempted] tempted it the circuit that had been kept in a state of peace and prosperity would have been all in a flame. (Hear, hear.) ell, there were some folks who would say there was argument in such reasons, and others who would say there was none. Now, he did not care which he had to deal with, but they -whether layics [classics] or clerics must stick to their text and abide by it. Did the Conference abide by such a rule No. It censured Beaumont, but did it censure George Brown Macdonald No, no. Of course there had been a great number of expulsions in the Huddersfield first and second circuits, for the Chairman of the District resided in Huddersfield, and he would be a man for fair play at all events-(laughter)-and would not make fish of one and flesh of another. (Hear, hear.) He (the speaker) sup- [supposed] posed he would have expelled Mr. Mallinson, and he ought therefore to shake hands with him as a brother ex- [expelled] pelled. [celled] (Laughter) He did not know that such really was the Sane, ks only referred to it as a principle of justice. (Hear, hear.) George Brown Macdonald had had delegates in his circuit, noisy ones too, speaking ones too. (Ap- [Applause] plause.) [clause] Had it so turned out that brother West as Chairman of the District, and brother Macdonald as Super- [Superintendent] intendent [intended] of the other circuit, had been expelling most un- [cunningly] ingly, [ingle] and the Conference never heard about it. (Laugh- [Laughter] ter.) [te] Brother Macdonald was summoned-no, he volun- [voluntary- volunteered] teered; [steered] he was not summoned, but volunteered an explana- [explain- explanation] tion, [ion] and Dr. Bunting was very much obliged to him for volunteering to state what he had done in the Hudders- [Udders- Huddersfield] field circuit, and his reasons were nearly word for word those assigned by Dr. Beaumont. He said it was of no use. (Hear, hear.) They would have heen [hen] acquitted. (Hear.) kept my circuit in peace, said he, 'but it would have been in a blaze if I had stirred in the matter. I have saved you more by bad discipline than by pushing it to an extreme. (Hear, hear.) The speaker said that if men were to be hung for murder, hang them all, but let them have fair play. (Applause.) They could not have two laws in Methodism, one for the known Liberal and another for the known Conservative, one man honoured, another man degraded-Dr. Beaumont censured, George Brown Macdonald escaping free-nay even thanked. (Dis- [Disapprobation] approbation.) He did not blame the Conference for not censuring Mr. Macdonald. He thought Mr. Macdonald deserved the thanks of Conference for preserving his circuit in a state of peace. (Hear.) But if George Brown Macdo- [MacDonald- Macdonald] nald [land] deserved thanks, did Dr. Beaumont deserve censure. ( He did not, he did not. He said Huddersfield ought to speak out. Let Brother West do his duty. Let Brother Carr do his duty. (Hear.) If the Conference was right in expelling Mr. Harrison, of Wakefield, let Brother Carr and Brother West follow the example. (Hear.) If men were to be expelled at Bradford, at Leeds, at London, at New- [Newcastle] castle, and other places, for giving out hymns at the opening of reform meetings, he called upon Brother Carr, if he had any justice in him any spirit in him--any pluck in him-if he dared do it-(tremenduous [it-(tremendous] applause)-he called upon him to summon Brother Mallinson to a trial next week. (Applause.) And if he did nct, [not] any friend that was there would have the kindness to present the speaker's compliments to Brother Carr, and say that he would proclaim it from one end of the land to the other, that he did not do it because he dared not do it. (Ap- [Applause] plause.) [clause] He dared all the Conference party that were at that meeting-whether clerics or layics-he [classics-he] dared them all to touch a hair of that man's head-(applause)-and if they durst not he would denounce the official conduct of Brother West and Brother Carr, in allowing such men to remain in the society, as inconsistent with the acts to which at the last Conference they were parties in censuring Dr. Beaumont for what they themselves had not dared to do. (Great applause.) In reference to the case of J. C. George. one which to him (Mr. Griffith) was exceedingly painful he would make a few remarks. Mr. George was not a man of nerve, of strong muscular body; he was a timid, modest, shrinking man. It was moral force alone that could bring him upon his feet, and sustain him in the pulpit and on the platform. Mr. George, in the Conference of 1849, refused to answer questions, and was subjected in consequence to censure and degradation. He was deposed from his office as superintendent, turned away from Grantham, and sent to Mansfield as second preacher. The people in the neighbourhood sympathised with him, and he was invited on almost. every occasion to attend public meetings, and preach anniversary sermons. Conference in return for the favour shown him, and in op- [opinion] ition [edition] to the unanimous desire of the church-removed im [in] not to the neighbouring county, but to Perth, right into the very heart of Scotland-( shame )-where there were only 45 members, and an income of about 14s. per week, There was another circumstance connected with Mr. George. He had been a missionary in India for 17 years, where his health had been nearly ruined, and he uired [fired] a warm climate in the south, and not the coldest district in the connexion. Shame, shame. Well, con- [contrast] trast [trust] the treatment of Mr. William Arthur, who had been a missionary in India for 17 months He returned, was immediately naturalised, and transferred from the Irish to the English circuits-a much better place-and appointed to the first circuits, worth from 200 to 250 per annum. (Dwapprobation.) [Approbation] This was not all. Whilst Mr. George was at Mansfield he visited his old friends in Grantham, when immediately a confidential letter was despatched to the Con- [Conference] ference [France] party, to know how he was conducting himself. ('Shame, shame. What an abomination-what a system of espionage. A system of Conference police, to report slan- [san- slanderous] derous [murderous] insinuations to head quarters, for the purpose of establishing chargesagainst [charges against] the obnoxious. (Disapprobation.) Brother Whitworth, a supernumerary at Bristol, was re- [removed] madved [moved] on suspicion of being a Liberal man, from evidence obtained at a private tea party. At this table some one said that Mr. Whitworth's wife said some words that were construed by some one present, or some one who heard them by report, into something like expressions of sym- [sum- sympathy] pathy [path] for the expelled preachers,-(laughter,)-and a etter [letter] in consequence was despatched by the Conference Secretary to inform Mr. Whitworth that he was responsible for what his wife said. Oh, oh. Take care husbands- [husband sand] and if any of them were not in that position, let them be careful in making their choice. (Laughter.) It seemed that preachers were responsible for what came out of their wives' mouths, but he knew that some preachers were not responsible for what went into their mouths. (Hear, hear.) Well, for this he was censured, and prohibited from living Within forty miles of Bristol, where they knew his super- [supernumerary] numerary [numerous] income had been increased by about 30 from his friends, for makings himself active in attending to the classes, visiting the sick, and other little things. Of this he was to be deprived and removed from his friends ( Shame, shame. After alluding to the lengthened riods [roods] which Messrs. Watson, Jackson, Hoole, Dr. Bunt- [Bunting] ing, Scott, and some other preachers had been stationed in good circuits, he denounced the proposed educational establishment as another job for which they were about to raise 10,000, and accept 7,000 from government. He trusted they would repudiate this unholy alliance of church and state. (Hear, and applause.) In drawing to a con- [conclusion] clusion, [conclusion] the rev. gentleman ran rapidly over the leading features in the case of Mr, Rupert wher, [her] a young man of great promise, who had become involved in the question at issue between the Conference and the people, in conse- [cone- consequence] quence [Queen] of certain liberal tendencies evin [vein] at different times during his ministry at Castle Donnington. It so happened, continued the speaker, that a London minister was en to preach a sermon at Castle Donnington, and what did they think this minister did He went about house to house, to this gentleman and that lady, to hear what kind of a man this Rupert Chawner [Chaloner] was. me were silly enough to tell him of what they had heard from those who had heard from others what Mr. Chawner [Chaloner] had done. The London minister turned dustman and went about from door to door enquiring, Have you any dirty holes behind-if so I will clean them out, and take the dirt as manure up to London. (Laughter.) Well, Conference came, and without any warning to Brother wher, [her] Brother John Rattenbury [Canterbury] stated in open Conference what he had fished up, and without an explanation from Rupert Chawner, [Chaloner] a letter of censure and admonition was sent down to Castle Donnington. He denied thecharge, [the charge] andsaid [and said] thatin [that in] open Conference he would defend himself, and disprove the slanders and misrepresentations of Mr. Rattenbury, [Canterbury] but the censure was not withdrawn. (Disapprobation.) 'These were some of the late acts of the Conference of 1850. He asked them, the Wesleyans of Huddersfield, were these acts honourable to the Conference and Methodism. Were they prepared to give liberally of their support such a system. No, no. ) stamp these acts with the brand of disapprobation. We will, we will. Would they do their best to prevent a repetition of them ('We will, we will. hen they must stop the supplies. loca [local and general, or they would never do it. (Applause.) They must divert the stream for a time-they must turn the river Euphrates, get into Babylon the Great, and obtain possession of the citadel, before they co. ld overthrow the power of Conference, and introduce the Christianity of the New Testament. (Hear.) Then they could go on with the manhood of humanity and the dignity of the Christian, and accomplish their great and glorious object. The rev. gentleman sat down amid great applause. r. JOHN Hanson, a local preacher, briefly seconded the resolution, after which W. Martin, Esq., expelled local preacher, from Man- [Manchester] chester, rose to move the third resolution, and was well received. He said it was not his intention at that advanced period of the night to tax the patience of the meeting by any protracted observations. He was sure that any attempt to make an improvement upon the admirable speech delivered by Mr. Griffiths would be utterly futile. The resolution he held in his hand was That this meeting, although deepiy [deeply] interested in the progress of Wesleyan Methodism, and having strong attachment personally to many ministers, is painfully convinced that the assumption, and the acts of the Conference are palpably opposed to the authority of the Great Head of the Church, at variance with the design and constitution cf the early Christian Churches, ani [an] practically opposed to the genius and spread of Christianity; and regrets that it cannot conscientiously contribuie [contribute] as heretofore, to the maintenance of a system so opposed to the spirit of Christian truth, and therefore recommends that the contributions to all Wesleyan Funds be at once diverted to another channel, until Conference shall mest [meat] the just and scriptural claims of the people. That meeting, viewed in some of its aspects, presented to his mind a mournful spectacle. To every rightly constituted tind [tins] its necessity must be a subject of the deepest sorrow. (Hear, hear Its expediency, however, could not be denied by those whe [the] had marked the polity of the Wesleyan Con- [Conference] ference [France] during the last twenty or thirty years. Its necessity being admitted, it was to his own mind matter of congratu- [congratulate- congratulation] lation [nation] and thankfulness to witness the deep and intelligent enthusiasm manifested by that meeting in the great question they were met to consider and promote. (Hear.) They had just completed another Wesleyan ecclesiastical year-a year of intense excitement and agitation. It was confidently ho by multitudes of excellent men of their own and other churches that the Wesleyan Conference recently assembled in London could have adopted some healing measures by which peace might have been restored to their distracted church these hopes had been blasted. (Hear, hear.) That assembly, so far from making any, even the smallest concession, assumed an attitude of defiance, and adopted a system ot despotism more decided than any which before had marked their pretensions. (Disapprobation.) One had hoped that the entreaties and the prayers of God's people would have moved the hearts of those men who were professedly assembled for the purpose of promoting the cause of the Redeemer in the world. (Hear, hear, and applause.) What had been the tact These grievances had been treated with derision-their petitions for redress with odium and contempt; they had spurned the over- [overtures] tures-( [Tues-( -( they have lad, )-proposed to them by the peo- [pro- people] ple, [le] and were determined to do what they could to defy the reformers to the last. (Disapprobation.) This was a mournful fact, a fact which must produce infinite sorrow on the heart of every Christian man. It was io his mind the subject of constant sorrow to think that men who were set apart for the preaching of the gospel, and the promotion of God's glory, should be so intense upon their personal agyrandisement. [aggrandisement] (Hear, hear.) The course pursued of late years by the Wesleyan Conference had been most disas- [disease- disastrous] trous [trout] to the religion and the liberty of the country. (Hear, hear.) No one could reflect upon the proceedings of the late Conference without feelings of the intensest and deepest regret. (Hear, hear.) The treatment of Conference to some excellent ministers had been calculated to irritate and excite the feelings of those who before that time were dis- [disposed] posed to look on with complacency and content. (Hear.) But he asked that meeting how was it possible that Chris- [Christian] tian [tin] men could witness such proceedings as those they had been called to notice, without feelings of the deepest in- [indignation] dignation [dig nation] and abhorrence. (Hear, hear.) Wesleyan ministers seemed to have forgotten the dignity of their office and the meekness of that religion which they professed to teach. They had not contented themselves with the proceedings adopted against ministers, but had gone into other circuits, and instead of trying to promote harmony and peace, they had been scattering the flock of Christ. The pulpit since thelast [the last] Conference, whenceshould [whence should] have issued only words of peace and love, had been polluted by the most vulgar and reckless attacks on Christian men- [men true] ( True, lad )-whose only crime had been a determination to resist the further progress of corruption [correction] and tyranny in the church. (Hear, hear, and applause.) Indeed, any man, however exalted his intelligence or his piety, had been denounced as a foe to Christ and a traitor to religion, if he dared to question the Divine right of Methodist preachers to govern Methodist churches. (Applause.) hy, the judicial proceedings of the late Conference were not cealeu- [sale- calculated] lated [late] to raise their veneration. They were certainly not calculated to produce anything like respect. But because the reformers were denouncing this policy, they were denoun [denounce] ed by some of those reverend fanatics as demons in human shape. (Hear.) But it was a comfort to know that however contemptible the reformers might be as individuals, their principles were sublime. Their's was a glorious pedi- [pied- pedigree] gree-they [free-they -they] boasted an illustrious genealogy-numbering amongst their disciples some of the finest names of history under the banners beneath which they fought. There was Wickliffe, and Melancthon, [Melancholy] and Luther, and Cromwell, and Milton, and that noble army of martyrs and confessors who purchased the liberties of the present day by the sacrifice of their precious blood. (Hear, hear.) The battle the Reformers were fighting now was, in many respects, the very same. These glorious men fought and won centuries ago. Their's was a war of freedom,-so was that of the reformers. They had to struggle for liberty of conscience,-for the right of private judgment,- [judgment] for thetreedom [thereto] of the press. The reformers were struggling for the same. (Applause.) If the priesthood who ruled the Conference were less brutal than the priesthood of the Star Chamber or Court of High Commission, they were not less so in spirit. (Hear, hear.) A greater act of cruelty was never perpetrated than that upon the late Mr. Bromley, who had spent the fire of his youth and manhood in pro- [promoting] moting [noting] the best interests of Wesleyan Methodism but the Conference uf [of] 1850 had ruthlessly excommunicated that man of God from the Church of his fathers. They had cast him adrift upon the raging sea to sink or swim as best he could; allowing him but one moment to speak in his own defence. Talk of cruelty. An instance of greater cruelty than that was never perpetrated upon any man in the palmiest days of the Star Chamber. Mr. Griffith, continued Mr, Martin, had so well referred to the ease of Mr. Rowland, that he need not say more than that if it was possible to exceed in atrocity the case of Mr. Bromley, it had been exceeded in the case of Mr. Rowland. They had heard what Mr. Rowland's crime was. Having taken his seat in a minor district meeting, he determined to give a verdict according to the evidence produced. Con- [Considering] sidering [considering] the case frivolous and vexatious he denounced it, at the same time handing in nine unanswerable reasons for so acting. (Applause.) Somehow or other these reasons got into print, and Mr. Rowland soon found to his cost that to give a verdict hostile to the Conference was a grave offence, and to give reasons for such a decision was grave indeed; but for those reasons to be published filled up the measure of his iniquity, and Mr. Rowland found, and his fellow-countrymen found, that the Wes- [West- Wesleyan] leyan [lean] Conference had as great a dislike for reason and logic as Rome itself. (Hear.) They hated the press, as the owl hated light. They could not bear that all their proceedings should be given to the public. The consequence was that Mr. Rowland soon had a summons to appear before the Wesleyan inquisition in London; and, batch of inter- [interrogatories] rogatories, [factories] they asked Mr. Rowland, firstly, to retract the reasons he had given; and, secondly, to apologise to the Conference for having given these reasons at all; and then blamed him for allowing reason to have anything to do with his decisions in such a case. (Laughter and applause.) He declined to retract his reasons, and the Conference de- [degraded] graded him because he refused to degrade himself. ( Shame. This was just what Bunyan made Giant Des- [Despair] air do when Christian and Faithful were in the oubting [obtain] Castle. Mrs. Diffidence advised a sound cud. gelling. That was done. Dr. Bunting and Mr. Jackson had tried the same. Mrs. Diffidence told her husband to go and show Christian and Faithful the bones and skeletons of those who had already perished. The President pointed Mr. Rowland, he (the s er) could hardly say to the skeletons (looking at Mr. Griffith), and ap- [applause] lause, [cause] )-but to the consequences of obstinacy in the case. Rein Mr. Rowland refused. Mrs. Diffidence told her hus- [husband] band to go down to the prison and take a rope and ask these two men to hang themselves. (Laughter.) So did the Conference with Mr. Rowland. They wanted him to hang himself and by retracting his reasons to make himself a liar and a fool before the world. (Hear, hear.) He was determined not todoso. [toads] He did right. (Applause.) But like the good men in Doubting Castle, he felt he had the key of truth. He telt [test] he had something that would open his prison doors, and ere long breathe the refreshing air of the Delectable mountains. He (Mr. Martin) wished that Mr. Rowland was breathing the free air at present. He was wanting in judgment to remove from Norfolk. If he had remained there they would have expelled him, and he would have breathed freely for the first time in his life. (Applause.) The speaker had intended to revert to the system of questioning by penalty. Mr. Gnffith [Fifth] had said truly that the Wesleyan Conference wished Mr. Rowland to perjure his conscience. So they did, and such was the morality of all despotism. (Hear, hear.) How did they do it By establishing a system of brotherly enquiry. Despots had learnt right well that those men who would submit to be tested in any such way as that were either knaves or cowards. (Hear, hear.) He never knew a man who had read any thing of history-he never knew aman [man] who could afford to keep a conscience, who could ever look with any thing like complacency upon the system of questioning by penalty. What was the object of it 2 It was to enforce loyalty by terrorism. (Hear, hear.) Not contented with that system towards the preachers, they had adopted it towards the people, who were liable at any moment to be summoned by the Wesleyan ecclesiastical tribunal, and be questioned by the preachers; and so easy of adaptation was this principle that each member of a family might be suborned to give evidence against the other. The fact was that the system of questioning by penalty was to make a man oppose those of his own household, Ifthey [If they] would submit to that they deserved the execration of the world. (Hear, hear.) He ventured to tell the Wesleyans of Huddersfield and his fellow-country- [countrymen] men that the Wesleyan Conference, as it is, menaced the morality, the religion, and the liberties of this great coun- [con- country] try. Did they ask for proofs-unfortunately they were found on every hand-they had them in the tyrannous and persecuting statutes of the Werleran [Veteran] Conference-statutes money to Would they conceived in jealousy and, in suspicion, steeped in apostacy [apostle] and unbelief. (Applause.) They had them in their determined opposition to the public pres -in their attempts to silence criticism-in their efforts to fetter ministers, office bearers, and members. They had them in their attempts to make a gag to fetter not only those of their own church, but the press and the public. They had them in the ieee and pe who the re- [religion] igion [religion] they professed to teach, an the - tives [lives] of that whom they professed to wohl [wool] in thoigne. [thing] minious [minis] expulsion of ministers, and office bearers, and mem- [men- members] bers, [bees] without a trial and without acrime. [crime] (Applause.) In one word, the Wesleyan Conference was a huge con- [con] spiracy [piracy] against morality and treedom. [freedom] (Hear, hear.) He was not ing under excitement. He had carefully thought of what he was saying. He would say that the licy [Lucy] of the Wesleyan Conference went to degrade ax onest [nest] man, and to raise the man who would degmde [deemed] him- [himself] self, (Applause.) The Wesleyans might complain that they were not responsible for what their ministers did; but if they endorsed what such a man as Mr.. Ratcliffe could do by giving him a vote of thanks, then he said he would not give a farthing for the virtue of the Wesleyan Conference. (Loud But sup- [supposing] posing some of these friends were to say, We admit all you say to be true, but we want you to seek these changes in 2 constitutional way. We object to these exciting meetings, trying to unsettle every person's mind. (Hear.) He might object that he did not believe there were constitutional ways. Did they tell him of the June quarterly meetings ; that was not constitutional, for it had been used in v unconstitutional ways by the preachers, and many who had asked for bread had received a stone- [stone they] they had asked for an egg and they had got a scorpion - and ought they to hold that scorpion to their bosoms -that questioning by penalty, until it biteth [birth] like a serpent and stingeth [seething] like an adder (Applause.) They were sometimes called revolutionists. He gloried in the name. Dr. Dixon had said at the May missionary meeting in 1849, that there was nothing like a good revolution, and he was right. He (Mr. Martin) defied any man to prove that any ecclesiastical or political system was ever renovated without a revolution. Such a revolution as this he loved-he loved it for its results. (Applause.) If they never did get Wesleyan Reform, he believed Methodism was on its last legs, and they were sowing the seed of liberty that would germinate, and grow, and bring forth a glorious harvest to the church and the country. (Hear, hear.) He had no fear of reform; the preachers were sure to oppose it because their power was in danger. It was a great fact that whether in religious or political institutions, the last thing a man would part with was his pewer. [power] (Hear, hear.) They might get a debt-a national debt, as in this country-to have and retain power. (Hear- Their support it might be was but infant support, but it would grow fast to manhood, and rise in giant strength, and uproot every despotism in this wide world. (Hear, hear.) The resolution said stop the supplies. He advocated that with all his heart. (Hear.) If there was one question, however, which gave him pain in connection with thi [the] revolution it was that one. They had been trained from their cradles to give money to the preachers, and the hardest job they had to do was to keep their money in their pockets. (Hear.) Every man, however, must act according to conscience in this matter. For himself he should as soon think of putting his hand into the fire as that of putting it into his pocket to support such a system. (Loud applause.) Let those, however, who thought it was wrong to stop the supplies, act accordingly. (Hear.) Many of them were placed in a delicate position- [position they] they had invited ministers tv come amongst them, and they could not think of refusing their support-to such their consciences must be their guide. (Hear.) He would not have the money stopped invidiously. He would not have them say, If thev [the] will not think with us we will starve them to it. That would not do. (Hear, hear.) But these contributions under protest during the past year had been misrepresented, and published as a triumphant proof that all was right. This was not fair, and his advice to all was, if they could conscientiously, to sop every farthing to the Wesleyan Society. (Applause.) e just wished to say one word or two in reference to an important point. They called themselves reformers. Well, had they begun at home. (Hear.) Reform must first begin in their own hearts. Let them first keep down everything like evil temper and if they found a thorovgh-going [through-going] Conference man, let them not only agree to ditfer-but [differ-but] to Jove ane [an] differ. (Applause.) Let them pray for this reform move- [movement] ment. [men] For- [Fortunes] Uniess [Unless] the Lord conduct the plan, The best concerted schemes are vain, And never can succeed. (Hear, hear.) Many places had been closed against them, but there was the cottage door open. Let the local preachers begin again the plan of cottage preaching, and combined with the circulation of good tracts and general knowledge, they would accomplish great good. (Hear.) One word in con- [conclusion] clusion; [conclusion] the sooner they could bring that war to an end the better. The best way was to spread information, and let them then do all in their power, and they could not fail te obtain real practical reform. (Loud applause.) The resolution was briefly seconded, in a humorous speech, by Mr. FRaNK [Frank] VICKERMAN; and after a vote of thanks to the CHAIRMAN, which was duly acknowleged, [acknowledged] the meeting dispersed about eleven o'clock. a HUDDERSFIELD PRELIMINARY SAVINGS BANK. Some weeks ago we had ocasion [occasion] to record the estab [stables] lishment [enlistment] of this valuable institution in connection with the Mechanics' Institute, and, now that it has been in practical operation for a quarter of a year, we return with pleasure to the subject, and in reporting progress, indulge in a few general observations. i the earlier operations of the Bank it was confined to male depositors, but being desirous of conferring a more general public benefit, it was sought by a slight modification of its rules to bring under its influence a wider circle of depositors by opening accounts with the female portion of the community; and though the result on a superficial knowledge of the fact that only three persons under this head have taken advantage of the opportunity, may appear somewhat in the light of failure, we are satisfied that a closer and more minute examination will prove the prudence and propriety of such a step. These three have broken through the diffidence with which an initiative in such matters is invariably surrounded, and we have no fear but that the returns for the ensuing quarter will present the grati- [great- gratifying] fying [dying] fact, that the humble and unassuming factory girl, the operative's wife and daughter, as well as the factory lad and the operative himself, have become small capitalists, and struck, perhaps for the first time in their lives, on the path of true, real, self independence-one which if trod honestly and perseveringly, will do much towards placing them above the contingencies of absolute want, and the miserable self-degrading pauper dependence and pittance. In the number of depositors there will be found a gradual increase-a circumstance which we are disposed to recognise as vastly more important than the amount entered-though this latter is by no means of secondary consideration. But we look towards these Preliminary or Penny Savings Banks as a leverage for raising the spender of unconsidered trifles-the thoughtless waster of coppers, to a position whence he will begin to caleu- [clue- calculate] late-to [to] note his income and expenditure-and to be careful that the balance is on the right side. We should be sorry to sec the miser written indelibly on the countenance of every unschooled lad, or rough sturdy mechanic but we would like to bear record that every artizan, [artisans] every operative, who has toiled through long hours of wearisome and fatiguing labour in our factories or other employment, was conscious that he was-instead of the never-ceas- [never-case- ceasing] ing in-operative murmur that he is not-a capital- [capitalists] alist. [list] There should be this great lesson ever upper- [uppermost] most, at home and at the factory, God helps those who help themselves -that foreign help, or social and political renovation from others, is a wild, delusive pro, bability, [ability] ever at the finger-ends, but never grasped. In- [Instead] stead of leaning on the shoulders, and supporting the host of wordy demagogues who draw their resources from the simple confidence of ignorance or mistrued [mist rued] enthusiasm, let us have a working-class anxious in times of prosperity to avoid all useless, profitless expenditure of means, in arrangements for hours of adversity,-a time when the long train of evils arising out of want, too often madden them into despairand [despair and] helpless indifference. Towards the accomplishment of a consummation so devoutly to be wished, we know of no machinery-no apparatus-so simple and effective, as a Prelimi [Prelim] or Penny Savings Bank. Habits of care, and thought, and saving, are the most prominent characteristic differences between the middle and the lower classes, and give buta [but] new turn to the current of the working man's thoughts- [thoughts but] but once pass them along the channel of literally pens savings, and it requires no prophetic vision to date the time when, by this all but alchymist's [almost's] power, all copper shall be transmuted into gold. Much good has hitherto been effected, but there is scope enough We do not grumble with 216 accounts, but we would rather have 2,000, whose average depo- [depot- deposits] sits should remain at their present standard of 1s. 5d. each. To our mind, the smaller the deposits on each occasion, the more gratifying, because such a fact proves that the right parties are being influenced. One or two rather singular facts have been evolved during the past quarter of the society's operations,-we allude to the effect of wet and stormy nights and feast times. We are assured that on these occasions the deposits dwindle down very considerably. On Honley feast week, for instance, the deposits were only 3 17s. 4d., whilst, on the ensuing week, they were 7 9s. 8d. Our readers will scarcely need to be informed that our Preliminary (or Penny) Savings Bank is under the management of its worthy originator, Mr. C. W. Sikes, towards whose exertions and affable demeanour much is due for the amount of success which has attended this institution. We are informed by that gentleman that there are 1047 deposits, amounting to 75 1s. 7d., averaging ls. 5d. each; the mininum [minimum] deposit being 1d., the maxinum [maximum] 15s. Twenty have made up their guinea, and will have that amount transferred to the Government Savings Bank. The only withdrawals that have occurred were from parties leaving the town, or purchasing books, or other materials for mental improvement. As a practical illustration of the nature of the business. done by the humble depositors, the following analysis of the deposits for the 12th of August will prove im [in] teresting [interesting] s dad 58 from 1d. and not above Is. ............ 1ll [ll] 3 25 above 1s. and not above 5s. ............ 3.5 2 7 above 58. 314 8 90 depositors 8 11 So gratifying a result needs no comment from us. As the returns may rove interesting to our reade [read] we append them P ot Date. Accounts open. No. of Deposits. A Juy [July] 8... 57 a 57 a 15 70 42 117n [n] 22 79 52 314 3 29 93 56 33 8 Aug. 5 105 58 5 9 5 12 137 90 8h oO 2 155 103 78 6 162 77 518 2 Sept. 2 171 92 68 8 182 88 eee [see] 671 a 189 90 wee 519 2 30 a 193 55 Honley feast3 [feast] 17 4 Oct. 205 96 79 8 7 ou 216 92 aes sll [all] 3